Rampant Hooliganism.

Disclaimer: If you enjoy safe driving do not watch the following clips.

Title: Ghost Rider.
Terrorizes: Various towns in Poland.
Specialty: Ridiculous and over-the-top wheelies.
Video discription: The Ghost Rider instigating an officer, followed by him being chased by multiple police vehicles while wheeling around a corner at triple-digit speeds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx1CkPcICaY&feature=playe r_embedded

Title: ÷åðíûé äüÿâîë (Black Devil).
Terrorizes: Moscow, Russia.
Specialty: Somehow not dying.
Video discription: Honest to god, just watch the video and really try to count just how many times he almost dies. You'll lose track very, very quickly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XihQeZpwqpE&feature=playe r_embedded

 

I in no way condone or suggest riding a bike in that way, ever, but my god does it make for some interesting video.

Holy F'ing Jesus!  Can you say mega death wish.  That last guy has really got some issues I think.

Ok.....I need to relax now.

The Dawg

I have been following the ghost rider videos for years, they are always a fun watch.  There are several other older video's of similar stunts done in cars vs the police in Europe.   The cop cars must really be slow over there.  I don't think I have ever seen a cop helicopter in any of those videos either.  Not that a cop helicopter would be able to do any good against the bike, as the bike could/should be able to do twice over the speed of any regular police helicopter.

The only thing I picture are these guys one day killing somebody's little girl or boy just riding in the back of the car and he goes through the car as they happen to make a left in front.

Maybe I'm a prude.. but if it was up to me these guys would have been shot by now. Not worth having in society.

Not quite Dawg, I don't know what the police over there use, however the VPD uses a Eurocopter 120, its one of the most common Police helicopters.   It has an econo crusing speed of 191kph, (roughly 120mph, with a max sustained of 226kph, and a "HOLY CRAP FALLING OUT OF THE SKY AND BLOW UP, speed of 278)  and that is straight line long run up to get to that speed.  That motorcycle can run dead stop to 200kph in 10 seconds flat, as well as change direction, stop and take back off much quicker than the helicopter can.  Given a top speed run, that bike should close on 190mph 300kph.

This Ghost rider series of video's has been going on for nearly 10 years, and never been caught or killed in action.  Hence why he has gotten rather brazen in his antics. 

      I kinda admire the guy for his obvious skill as a rider, and although I am in no means a motorcycle guy I do have to appreciate just how amazingly fast they can be setup to go.

 

Oh here is the stats on the Eurocopter.

Technical data for EC-120

Main rotor diameter: 10.00m, fenestron diameter: 0.75m, overall length, rotors turning: 11.52m, fuselage length: 9.60m, height overall: 3.40m, height to top of rotor head: 3.08m, empty weight, standard: 960kg, empty weight, typical passenger fit: 1007kg, max T-O weight, internal load: 1715kg, max T-O weight, external load load: 1800kg, max sling load: 700kg, never exceed speed: 278km/h, max cruising speed with 1715 T-O weight: 226km/h, econ cruising speed: 191km/h, max rate of climb at sea level: 366m/min, service ceiling: 5180m, hovering ceiling, IGE: 2820m, hovering ceiling, OGE: 2320m, range, no reserves: 727km, endurance, no reserves: 4h 32min

Interesting way to think. Let me ask you a question though, do the stats say that the risk is the same, lower or higher if you are speeding? Also, do the stats say that the level of damage is the same, lower or higher if you are speeding? Innocent deaths involved in speeding? or is it the same whether you are going 60 or 160?

A couple of months ago (I think), there were 4 guys in a car on the highway that veered off and smashed into the back of a trailer in the construction zone. The probably would have survived a bit better had they been going slower. Unfortunately the driver killed 2 innocents. Had that trailer been a car that had been pulled over with engine trouble with a couple of kids in it...

Excessive and "controlled" speeding is just plain stupid. You can NEVER predict what is going to happen, you can only wish.

Just my random thoughts. I just don't consider it worth it. Some do, I just hope they stay the hell away from me and anybody I care about at the very least.

>Bah, if it makes you feel any better, the Black Devil is dead, and Ghost Rider has seemingly disappeared over the years.

Good.

Well Dave I don't know if I agree regarding a bike getting away from a helicopter within city limits.

Think about a pilot at 1500 ft cruising at 150 MPH.  He can see for miles in every direction.  He doesn't need to zig and zag through traffic.  Huge advantage over the biker who has to navigate through various situations to get to where he's going.

It's just a matter of time before the bike runs into traffic than forces him to slow down for a while.  The pilot can go full tilt the whole time if need be and do the bee line straight to the bikes destination cutting him off at the pass so to speak.

I read in some forum a while back about these police pilots laughing there guts out every time someone tried to out run them.  Apparently, not possible.

Now, outlasting them is another story.  The chopper will run out of fuel long before the bike will.  But normally by that time it's all over anyway.

The Dawg

Took me a while to find. Here you are. Clearly when you speed, you're going to have more and more crashes, as most people would be quick to point out out. No, no (Please scroll down to free-flowing speed and 85MPH and results) you don't. In fact, while that doesn't say "200MP/H MAKES US ALL SAFER", the Transportation Research Board meeting never actually found any strikes against Montana when they swapped from 75MP/H to Unlimited top speed back in 1980 all the way up to 2000 when that meeting was held. They did find one thing against driving quickly on the highway... I'm sure glad we pay someone to discover driving with your foot to the floor consumes more fuel.

You see, Graeme, most (Not all, I'll admit) humans have an active section of their brain (Parietal Lobe) located towards the rear, close to the stem. That part of the brain doesn't want us to do 200KM/H when it's snowing out, because it knows it needs the host body to survive to keep the brain alive. That's why most humans, even those who like to go fast, will slow down in traffic, when passing, when weather sucks or when the car just isn't taking it; We want to survive. Those of us who lack that self-preservation are probably not going to heed the threat of a small monetary fine, given that they're endangering their lives already.

I agree, and closed it will be.