3400 swap
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Topic: 3400 swap
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Subject: 3400 swap
Date Posted: 12 May 2012 at 8:27am
2000 alero
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Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 12 May 2012 at 8:35am
| Started to pull the motor.I have a new 88 flywheel ,bolt and yesterday the new clutch came a stage 2 clutch that can handle 294 hp and 295ft/lb torque.I,m going to send the pcm to sinister performance to do the programing as sone as i get the pcm out i'm going to stay with the obd 2. |
Posted By: Twinn
Date Posted: 12 May 2012 at 3:01pm
| Any chance you could make the pictures bigger? |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 12 May 2012 at 3:23pm
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Posted By: bcampbell
Date Posted: 12 May 2012 at 11:32pm
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Are you planning on changing the lower intake manifold
gaskets while the engine is out? Might be a good idea as I personally know someone who's gone through a couple of sets (in a Venture). There are metal gaskets available that are supposed to be better quality than stock. I've also read that dex-cool is the reason they fail though. ------------- '86 2m6 F23 5-speed, LSD, 3.5L LX9 '89 Firebird 3500T, T56 |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 13 May 2012 at 7:57am
| No it was done by the other owner. |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 20 May 2012 at 7:25am
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Got the motor out and pulled off the ac pump and power steering pump know need to give the motor it bath. |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 20 May 2012 at 7:31am
Went to monreo swap meet and bot some gauges monster tach for $50 and a fuel pressure gauge for $20 which was bran new.
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Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 20 May 2012 at 7:33am
Bot a 3rd brake light for $4 going to have to find a spot for it.maybe rear window or spoiler.
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Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 31 May 2012 at 7:32pm
| Gave the 3400 a bath nice and clean.Need to get the fuel lines move and see if i can swap the valve covers around.Sinister performance shipped out the PCM yesterday. |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 07 June 2012 at 9:52pm
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Started on the harness and the pcm came on thursday.I think i have every thing for the swap so after the All Pontiac show the swap will start.I haven't pulled the fiero motor out if some 1 wonts to come and help that has done it i would like the help. Tino |
Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 16 June 2012 at 12:10am
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Isn't this basically what you are building might be able to save yourself thousands in the build. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Pontiac-Fiero-GT-TURBO-3400-FAST-AND-CLEAN-ONE-KIND-CAR-HERE-/190690567415?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2c660b24f7 - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Pontiac-Fiero-GT-TURBO-3 400-FAST-AND-CLEAN-ONE-KIND-CAR-HERE-/190690567415?pt=US_Car s_Trucks&hash=item2c660b24f7 ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 16 June 2012 at 9:01am
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Yes i've been reading the threath on the setup and yes i would like to do same setup,but the turbo will be done down the road a 1year or so.The other threath i'm using is http://www.gtfieros.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1400 - http://www.gtfieros.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1400 I've been asking talk to him about the install and he's been a big help on parts and what needs to be done and how. Tino |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 16 June 2012 at 11:44am
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Took off the 3400 sfi logal and get it clean and ready for paint. |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 01 July 2012 at 8:51pm
Got the 3400 top end back together and new fuel lines.
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Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 01 July 2012 at 8:53pm
Started to pull the 2.8 out of the fiero it will go up for sale once it out.
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Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 01 July 2012 at 8:54pm
The other side of the 2.8
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Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 02 July 2012 at 5:33pm
Got the motor out of the fiero today,that was fun,  
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Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 05 July 2012 at 6:41pm
| 2.8 is ready to come of the cradle.Got the dog bone in place on the 3400 but still try to get the alternator relocated to the lower part of the motor going to have to make a braket for the alt.Might go out to pick a part to find some kind of braket that will work.Still have to pit the fly wheel on and clutch. |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 08 July 2012 at 6:54am
| Went to pick a part found a bracket that will work for my alternator hade to do some cutting and grinding to make it work,but almost done will put some pics up when done and painted.The bracket came of a 94 grand prix 3.1 and it was a AC bracket.Today going to find some fuel lines and hope to get them started.Also got new poly bushings for the cradle need to install them also. |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 09 July 2012 at 4:31pm
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Got the alternator and braket install, also got th e fuel lines in
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Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 09 July 2012 at 4:55pm
The brack came off a 94 grand prix 3.1 with some cutting and grinding it fit.The alternator is from a 88 fiero,just need to put a small washer behind the pull to push it forwards to line up with the rest, it's a little back from the rest.Then put the  belt on.
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Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 11 July 2012 at 4:09pm
Got all the pulleys on and belt.
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Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 11 July 2012 at 4:15pm
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Started doing the poly bushings on the cradle.Once they are done the 2.8 is coming off the cradle and the 3400 is going on the fly wheel is on the 3400 just the clutch needs to be done. |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 14 July 2012 at 7:40am
Had  to cut a little to make the front engine bracket fit.
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Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 14 July 2012 at 7:45am
Put the clutch on and snaped a bolt.Thanks to David he had a spare 1, know i can try to finish the clutch,hope don't brake any more.
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Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 14 July 2012 at 7:49am
Cleaned the cradle and gave it some black paint.Still need to do the front cradle poly bushing.did new motor and trans mounts.The motor mount was in ok shape 1 of the trans mounts was broke and he other barly together.
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Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 16 July 2012 at 9:12pm
| Tryed to bolt on the clutch but broke another bolt,it broke around 5 foot pounds.The bolts are not threaded to the heads and when i torque them down they bottom out where the threads stops and snape,so i'm going to have to find bolts that have full thread or put 2 lock washers then try to toque them down. |
Posted By: D_sensitized
Date Posted: 16 July 2012 at 9:42pm
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ARP 150-2202
Is the part number I used for my clutch bolts. Come in packs of 3, got them at Mopac. ------------- -Harrison 88GT 3800 SC1 F23 5-speed Chilliwack |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 16 July 2012 at 10:01pm
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Thanks Harrison i was going there tommorrow for some think else. Tino |
Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 16 July 2012 at 10:03pm
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Damn Tino, I have never heard of anyone having that much trouble with pressure plate bolts in my life. Hope all works out for you. ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 17 July 2012 at 9:15pm
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I got the ARP bolts that Harrison used so in the next day or so i'll get them on i hope. Tino |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 18 July 2012 at 6:36pm
Got the clutch done yaho.Bolted the motor and trans together,know need to do the exhaust.Need to also make a bracket for the clutch cables and move them over a little.
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Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 24 July 2012 at 5:19pm
Got the 3400 in the car today.Got all the bolts for the cradle in  but 1 front passanger not lineing up right,will have to play with that 1 a little.
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Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 24 July 2012 at 5:20pm
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Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 24 July 2012 at 5:23pm
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Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 24 July 2012 at 5:24pm
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Posted By: Twinn
Date Posted: 24 July 2012 at 6:09pm
| Looking nice so far. Post a video when its finished. |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 08 August 2012 at 7:19pm
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Got all the water hoses done and play on the cold air intake,some thin
g like this maybe.Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 03 September 2012 at 2:35pm
Got all my autometer gauges in and working exept i need to find out which wire is for the the tach from the ECM. 
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Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 03 September 2012 at 2:41pm
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Got all the wiring in just have a few more that need to connected and it ran for a few seconds then i turned it off,no fuel likes whick was nice.Thanks to Harrison who did all of the layout for the harness and i put the ends together.Thanks Harrison.
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Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 05 September 2012 at 12:58pm
| Will got all the wiring done last night with Harrison's help.We tryed to start the car,it would run for a few sceonds then die.today i tryed to atart it again same thing,unpluged the MAF sensor and it ran with a high idle and as sone as i plug the MAF wires back it dies.Also checked for vacuum leaks dont seam to have any.The 3400 ran great till it was pulled so i don't think it's the MAF sensor. |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 07 September 2012 at 8:45am
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Got the car running yesterday had a bad throttle gasket,replace it and it runs good and idles is good also no leaks.Have a few more little thing to do and will be taking it for a ride in a few days i hope.Her is a video of it running. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk-uWDlPCsE&feature=youtu.be - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk-uWDlPCsE&feature=youtu .be |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 23 September 2012 at 12:51pm
| Took the fiero out for its first drive around the block a few times,the 3400 sure has more get up and go to the 2.8,the cold air intake sounds great almost like a 4 bbl carb.Have a few things to take care of before go for a good run.Need to do small ajustments on the clutch cable brackets and a pulley needs to be mounted a little better so its not as noisy and it should be good to go. |
Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 25 September 2012 at 1:28am
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Congrats on getting it running, I am sure you are going to have a blast with it. ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 25 September 2012 at 7:38pm
| I hope to,plan on getting a 1 day permit on the weekend going on a good ride. |
Posted By: Dawg
Date Posted: 25 September 2012 at 7:54pm
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Looks amazing Tino. You and Dad do good work.
See ya in 3 weeks... Dawg ------------- You dream it up....I'll make it |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 30 September 2012 at 11:43am
| Went for a drive today drove very nice with no problems.It sure has a lot more get up and go and the clutch is a lot different then the old 1 need to get us to that.the only thing is the speedo works but the odometer doesn't any 1 have a idea why it doesn't. |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 30 September 2012 at 3:00pm
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Heres a video of a short run. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pes4x-mS3nY - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pes4x-mS3nY |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 08 April 2013 at 3:45pm
So i bot new MSD coils wires and E3 plugs for the fiero.Put the MSD coils in and started it and went for a ride to make sure it run,then do the plugs and wires.But my new alternator i bot 6 months ago was way over charging almost 18 volts.So off to lordo and get a exchange,changed the new alternator and all go 14.74 volts at the gauge and at the battery.know i can do the plugs and wires.Heres a pic of the coils only.
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Posted By: D_sensitized
Date Posted: 08 April 2013 at 3:56pm
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Looks good.
Will it make it out to the meeting this weekend? ------------- -Harrison 88GT 3800 SC1 F23 5-speed Chilliwack |
Posted By: tk_85redgt
Date Posted: 08 April 2013 at 4:49pm
| Thats the plan i hope. |