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Romeo 
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 Posted: 09 November 2010 at 4:41pm |
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The 3800 has always been a ninety degree V6, Damien... And the Northstar, 350/383, 4.9 and LS7 are all ninety degrees too. It'll all work out, don't worry.
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Dawg
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Posted: 09 November 2010 at 4:19pm |
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Ummmm....that doesn't look like we're in 60 deg. land anymore. That over head shot shows it all. Pretty darn tight I bet. Width wise I mean.
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Blair
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Posted: 09 November 2010 at 12:54pm |
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So fare the swap is going well. In the last two weeks I managed to reassemble the engine bits and mount the engine to the cradle. Although there was already a 3800 in the car I had to start the wiring harness from scratch. This allowed me to improve on how I built the first harness by using high temp looming and self bonding rubber tape. I now have the engine and cradle in the car and have started hooking it up.
It will take another 20 hours of harness building to connect the computer and car to the engine harness. As well I will have to make mounts for the dog bones and coil pack.
I hope to get the car running before it gets real cold in my shop but this will be hard. There are a couple of thing I am looking for, can you help? I am in need of a - 87,88 coupe rear bumper in good shape. - Dickman v6 poly dog bone ( will likely order from D.) - left and right fast back drip rails. if you think you can help give me a p.m. Thanks... |
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Blair
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Posted: 30 October 2010 at 6:29pm |
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Thanks for the kind words. Here's a pic of the just finished brackets ready for the glass beader and paint.
The upper bracket is made from 3/16" plate with 1/4"x3/4" ribs. The lower engine/ alternator mount is made from 1/4"x2" flat bar and 3/6" ears. This is the limit for my mig and as thin as I would go. I should mention to anyone that wonts to make there own brackets that all I use is a 110v gas mig, 5"grinder, and a $15. home depot drill. |
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D_sensitized
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Posted: 28 October 2010 at 5:20pm |
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Me too, looks much better then mine.
You didn't happen to uh, make 2 did you? 
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-Harrison
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Posted: 28 October 2010 at 12:02pm |
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Me like alternator bracket. Good job.
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Blair
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Posted: 28 October 2010 at 6:54am |
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I managed to get the cradle cleaned and painted last week. This made it possible to fabricate the alternator mounts and belt tensioner assembly. The lower alternator mount is welded to the front motor mount that cradles both sides of the engine. The upper mount was much trickier to make. It had to protect the alternator from all directions of movement and vibration as well as hold the tensioner is the best possible location. If your making alternator mounts for a swap make them strong! If you can't lift the engine by your alternator mounts it's not strong enough.
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Blair
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Posted: 16 October 2010 at 8:02pm |
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I will be using a custom bracket and stock tensioner assy. It worked well on the series 2 installs. The tensioning on the series 1 needs to be on the driving side of the pulley for simple belt routing. I was thinking a damper or shock may work to control a slipping belt caused by belt whip.
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D_sensitized
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Posted: 16 October 2010 at 6:44pm |
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Well my tensioner isnt really doing any more then an idler pulley would
because of the geometry of it and the only chatter I had was due to a wobbly alternator pulley. Are you using the stock alt/tensionner bracket? Although now that I think of it, there is a intermittent rattle that I havnt tracked down and havnt looked at the pulleys. |
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-Harrison
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Blair
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Posted: 16 October 2010 at 6:16pm |
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This week I managed to drop the cradle from the car only to find dirty parts. I will have to clean and repaint the cradle before I can work on installing the new engine and trans.
At this time it seems like a endless list of things to do... If I can get the cradle prepped before the freeze I will mount the alternator and pulley system. Then all I have to worry about is wiring. The install will be made easier because a 4t60e/ 3800 was already in the car. D_sensitized - Can you tell me how your blower belt tensioner is working for you. Have you had chatter problems? I don't see a good way to mount on the return side so I may have to go driven side as well. |
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 12:11am |
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Oh wait, there was already a series one in there wasn't there.
Sweet another series one S/C fixed |
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-Harrison
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Romeo
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Posted: 13 October 2010 at 11:55pm |
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You have a brother now! lol
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D_sensitized
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Posted: 13 October 2010 at 11:47pm |
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Sweet another series 1!
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-Harrison
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Posted: 13 October 2010 at 11:32pm |
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Blair I cant believe that is the same engine all sparkly clean and all....... let me know if i can help out Marcel |
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Patrick
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Posted: 12 October 2010 at 1:44am |
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Hey Blair, a lot of club members will be happy to see you posting here again.
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Blair
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Posted: 11 October 2010 at 5:10pm |
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Hi guys, I've been working on a upgrade for my coupe. With Marcel's help I have a 93 3800sc - 4t60e combo to upgrade the car with. I have already resealed and gasketed the engine and trans. I will be pulling the old 3800tpi - 4t60e out and fitting the new engine in the coming months.
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Posted: 27 September 2010 at 12:02pm |
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Blair
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Posted: 26 February 2008 at 6:33pm |
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Well the Edlebrock muffler was just too LOUD! so it didn't last long once I started driving the car. I took a 40 series muffler from Flow Master and cut the end off and flipped it so the in and out were on the same side. Then it was just a matter of installing it in place of the other muffler after cutting out some of the trunk. I will repair the truck later. The tip you see is from Bora and looks vary close to stock.
Here's a pic of the finished engine in the bay. So far it's running clean with no problems. The power is just enough to have fun but not get all out of shape.
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Blair
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Posted: 26 February 2008 at 6:08am |
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Thankyou' Thank youThank you vary much. u-hu. |
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Blair
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Posted: 26 February 2008 at 6:04am |
That is the most common 3800na to end up in a Fiero. People like it because of its reliability and lack of plastic. If you decide to go turbo at a later date, you can use the grand national comp. program as a plug and play. Here's a pic. of how well it cleans up.
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